Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  whats this?

  by BIG D in

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Had the elders told you to try freezing your brain because you were doing too much thinking?
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  What would you have "secretly" brought with you into the New System?

  by JH in

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  surely my 600+ mp3 music

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Could I take a time machine in with me? I'm sure after a hard day of farming, building houses, and smiling, I'd like to get in my time machine and go back to when I could have a tender and juicy steak, go to a club, watch TV, or maybe do some of those things I never got to do all those years that I was a good JW.
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  I finally spoke to my parents. Best thing I did.

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  several month ago i finally got up the courage to speak to my parents about the reasons i left the borg.

  up until then things were brewing up inside me to the point where i thought i would explode in rage.. even though they were aware of the basic reasons they still had no idea about how angry i was.. friday afternoon i started by asking my mother that i would like to arrange a meeting between the 2 of them and my wife and i to discuss the 't'.

  i didn't want to get into detail at this stage because it would be unfair on just her without my elder dad being there.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Great to hear your story. I'm new here and found this an inspiration. Wow.

  It's obvious you love your parents very much. To go to such length to explain these things, when you could have just said, "we're outta here." Wow.
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  Would anyone like a free Home Bible Study?

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm still 'in' and have access to certain resources, including 'follow up' slips.

  i suggest that anyone 'in' or 'out' help to turn these into 'fool up' slips.

  i'll start it small.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I wonder if they will stop using the 'Follow Up' slips before you could move, change your name, and have plastic surgery.
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  Would anyone like a free Home Bible Study?

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm still 'in' and have access to certain resources, including 'follow up' slips.

  i suggest that anyone 'in' or 'out' help to turn these into 'fool up' slips.

  i'll start it small.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I'm still 'in' and have access to certain resources, including 'Follow Up' slips. I suggest that anyone 'in' or 'out' help to turn these into 'Fool Up' slips. Here's how:

  I'll start it small. I need a few of you who are 'out' and away from where you are known to the local publishers as 'out'. If you would like to have someone come and start a free Home Bible Study with you, so you can ask them about some recent articles on the Internet, please send me VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE your name (perhaps fictious), address, and a very brief description of your 'background information' so that, very soon, the local 'friends' can come to your door to share with you 'fresh waters of Bible truth'.

  If your conscience bothers you about any 'lies', I'll be starting another thread about non-lies shortly...
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  Need printed text of MSNBC report on JW molesters....

  by nomoreguilt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  omg!

  i love this place.

  however, i seem to have misplaced the original text of the report by msnbc on the scandalous behaviour of our "friends".

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Here's a link directly to msnbc website article, two web pages with pictures: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917798/

  Or you can go to www.msnbc.com and search Jehovah's Witness lawsuits
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  Hey I just noticed that I am no longer a "Newbie"

  by TooBad TooSad in

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  i am now an official "junior member".

  tbts.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Congrats again!

  Yes, I'm up to 26 now!
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  Hey I just noticed that I am no longer a "Newbie"

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
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  i am now an official "junior member".

  tbts.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Congrats!

  Um, nothing else to say... just trying to 'respond' my way out of newbiehood.

  Crappy stupid computers keep checking every single crappy entry one at a time. It's sure a lot easier to just write an extra 30 hours on my crappy field service time slip and *bam* I have my auxiliary pioneer time in for the month
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  My letter to NBC about Watchtower's rebuttal

  by Fatfreek in

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  2. child-abuse

  i tried to copy this letter into firefox's xinha editor but there were too many conflicts.

  i decided to paste into microsoft word, then print to pdf.

  let me know if you have problems .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I'm a newbie catching up on the stories here.

  I'm surprised that OPI [Bethel abbreviation for Office of Public Information] would use the quote "People didn't have the body of knowledge 18 or 20 years ago to say that this is something that will harm your child emotionally, if you don't address it. Parents didn't know the seriousness ... and the long-term effects." If anybody in Bethel wasn't aware that sexual abuse of children would cause emotional harm, maybe they should read some issues of TheWatchtower and Awake! magazines, published by the Watchower Bible & Tract Society. Here's three excerpts: 1983 showing the emotional damage caused by incest was know in the US and other countries. 1991 the long lasting effects of child sexual abuse are clearly documented. And a lengthy quote from 1993 which would cause any thinking person to realize without doubt that child sexual abuse should never be minimized.

  *** w83 10/1 p. 27 Help for the Victims of Incest ***

  "FOR most of her life Rachel has been ridden with guilt, convinced of her own worthlessness, and trapped in a sense of hopeless isolation." What could so blemish the life of a British housewife and mother?

  A 16-year-old girl from California said: "I now have a pain deep in my heart that will never go away, and it hurts, truly hurts." What could cause her such anguish?

  The answer in both cases is the same: incest. Both of these women were sexually abused by their fathers when they were children. Unhappily, there are many like them. Studies in the United States suggest that one in five girls and one in ten boys suffer sexual molestation before they grow up. In most cases, the crime is committed by someone the young victim knows, and in many cases it is incestuous. Reports from other countries tell a similar story.

  ***g9110/8p.3TheInnocentVictimsofChildAbuse***

  "I’M NEAR 40 now," says Eilene. "And even though my problem is over 30 years old, it still haunts me. The anger, the guilt, the problems in my marriage! People try to understand, but they just can’t." Eilene’s problem? She is a victim of childhood sexual abuse, and for her the effects have proved to be long lasting.

  Eilene is far from alone. Surveys indicate that an alarming number of women—and men—have suffered such mistreatment. Far from being a rare act of deviant behavior, then, childhood sexual abuse is a widespread affliction, one that cuts across all social, economic, religious, and racial lines.

  ***g937/22pp.6-7AbusiveParents—TheUltimateStressors***

  Sexual

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  According to one estimate, 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 7 boys have been forced into a sexual experience by the time they are 18 years old. Most of these children suffer in silence. "Like soldiers missing in action," notes the book TheChildinCrisis, "they remain lost for years in a private jungle of fear and guilt."

  "How I hated my father for abusing me and how guilty I felt for hating him," says Louise. "I felt such shame because a child is supposed to love her parents and I didn’t all the time." Such perplexing feelings are understandable when a child’s primary protector turns into a perpetrator. Beverly Engel asks in TheRighttoInnocence: "How can we acknowledge that our own parent, someone who was supposed to love and care for us, could care so little about us?"

  Sexual abuse can warp a child’s entire view of life. "Every adult who was molested as a child brings from his or her childhood pervasive feelings of being hopelessly inadequate, worthless, and genuinely bad," writes Dr. Susan Forward.

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  "It is not just the child’s body that is abused or neglected," writes researcher Linda T. Sanford. "Troubled families mess with a child’s mind." When a child is abused, either emotionally, physically, or sexually, he or she may grow up feeling unlovable and worthless.

  Jason, mentioned earlier, had such low self-esteem as an adult that he was declared a suicide risk. Needlessly putting himself in life-threatening situations, he assessed his life as his mother had taught him: ‘You should never have been born.’

  Reflecting on the effects of being physically abused as a child, Joe says: "It just doesn’t go away because you move out or get married. I’m always afraid of something, and I hate myself for it." The tension of the physically abusive household causes many children to grow up with negative expectations and rigid defenses that imprison rather than protect.

  For Connie, incest created a distorted self-image that solidified in her adulthood: "I still think a lot of the time that people can look right inside me and see how disgusting I am."

  All forms of abuse teach poisonous lessons that may become deeply entrenched by the time of adulthood. True, what is learned can be unlearned. Countless survivors who have recovered from childhood abuse testify to that fact. But how much better if parents realize that from the time of their child’s birth, they are shaping much of his concept of himself and the world. A child’s physical and emotional welfare is largely in his parents’ hands.
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  New here........

  by mrose0202 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im new to your website and im very thankful i have found it.

  i was born and raised a witness but managed to get myself out after highschool and havent been back for five or six years.

  now that i have a family of my own im totally confused.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Oompa, give her a break. Maybe Meg's idea of a celebration is to drag her family to the meetings, in field service, and to the district conventions. Or maybe you're right. I don't remember any of those things making me celebrate as a kid.

  Meg, welcome! I'm a newbie here too.

  Don't be too harsh on the 'someone' who keeps calling, but you might let them know what you think about this: Go to this link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917798/ and print out both web pages of this article. Read it. Give it to the 'someone' and ask them "Are there any pedophiles in your congregation?" "Can we check with Watchtower Legal Department to be sure?" "If you found out that my child had been molested by anyone, would you report it to the police or only to your church?" "Are your donations to the Worldwide Work going to pay hush money to victims of child abuse?" Remember, you don't have to be harsh, but you deserve truthful answers.